Revit Structure – Controlling the stick symbol location for Beams

Earlier this week a client contacted me and asked about how to control the position of the stick symbol in climbing beams (see image below). Now this actually has a very simple solution but this was something that I had never noticed before and hence I thought I would share the knowledge and the tip and trick! The model had a mono pitch roof with secondary beams that were set out parallel to the rafter’s top flange. See model below.Revit - Climbing Beams

The problem arose in a course plan view as, by default, the symbolic lines are generated from the centre of the structural framing member and not the top plane. In the image below I have shown where the symbolic line should appear with the red reference planes and where the stick symbol is actually shown with default settings.Revit Stick symbols in plan and section

This obviously causes many issues with dimensioning and detailing of the structure as well as ambiguous results when adjacent beams with a differing section size are displayed in a seemingly different location!

Select your framing members and in the Properties Palette set the Stick Symbol Location to Top of Geometry. As you can see in the image below, the default setting is the centre of the member

.Stick Symbol Centre - Revit

Here is the before and after result. The shift is more pronounced on deeper sections but it does show the issue and the solution.

Revit - Stick Symbol Centre on beam

Revit - Stick Symbol Top on beam


Revit Structure 2014 – New selection tools

Sometimes the smaller, less significant features are the best. In Revit 2014 you now have the access to the following selection tools which are located in the bottom right of the interface.

Selection Toolstrip - Revit 2014

These tools are very simple but can drastically increase productivity while working with linked CAD models, Linked Revit Architecture or MEP models. Below you can see the selection tools and their use.

Selection Tools - Revit 2014

Selecting elements by face is really useful whilst trying to select and edit a floor in a plan view. When enabled, this simple tool allows you to pick the floor by face.

I tend to pin objects such as grids and levels and the selection of pinned elements is another good one to manage.

As I said, simple but really useful!

Hope this helps,




Understanding Concrete Beam Joins

A few weeks back I was asked how Revit Structure handles concrete beam joins and how to control and manage how beams are connected and processed at the junctions. In older releases of Revit the beams would always mitre which was good in some cases but in other situations really didn’t give the correct solution. I have now modelled the various configurations and created some images so you can see how the beams will join. If you do want a mitred junction which is not 90 degrees then you will need to use a precast material.